Elon Musk could sell billions in Tesla stock to plug X's financial holes

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The big picture: For Tesla investors, Elon Musk's $44 billion acquisition of Twitter is starting to look like a costly endeavor that just won't go away. As the social media platform's financial woes deepen, there are growing concerns that Musk may have to unload more of his Tesla shares to keep X afloat.

The signs aren't promising, according to a Fortune report, as X's advertising revenue, its primary income source, has plummeted since Musk's takeover amid a boycott from major brands. Recent reports indicate that Q2 2024 US ad revenue crashed 84% from a year ago when accounting for inflation. X isn't even reporting financials anymore, so outsiders can only speculate about the depth of its money pit.

Musk himself warned of potential bankruptcy last November if the ad situation didn't improve, and any talk of profitability has gone silent, which the report pointed out is uncharacteristic for the executive known for making outlandish financial projections. Making matters worse is the fact that Musk's recent lawsuit against a group of ad companies could've further alienated them.

For the world's richest person, simply tapping his $236 billion personal fortune isn't a viable option. That's because the vast majority of it is tied up across his private companies like SpaceX, Neuralink, and xAI. His 12% Tesla stake represents one of the few liquid assets available to raise emergency funds.

"I would be expecting something between $1 and $2 billion in stock," stated Bradford Ferguson of Halter Ferguson Financial in a recent YouTube video. He estimates this could knock 5-10% off Tesla's share price as the market absorbs more supply.

It's a situation reminiscent of late 2022 when Musk sold over $20 billion of his holdings to partially finance the Twitter deal, sending Tesla's stock tumbling to two-year lows. At that time, Musk vowed not to sell more shares until at least 2025 to reassure investors.

However, with over a year until that self-imposed deadline, X's cash crunch might force Musk's hand sooner than expected, according to Ferguson. He theorizes a near-term stock sale could be needed to shore up X's $13 billion debt load and remain compliant with loan covenants.

While Musk was "probably a little more optimistic" about X's outlook back in 2022, said Ferguson, the social platform's accelerating ad revenue declines appear to have dashed those hopes. Tapping his golden goose at Tesla may be an unfortunate necessity.

For Tesla bulls, having their company's CEO perpetually distracted by the X money pit is unnerving enough. But watching a sustained exodus of Musk's stake as X's financials deteriorate could be a worst-case scenario. Whether he holds firm to his 2025 promise or stages an earlier stock sale remains to be seen.

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But why would Musk do that to shore up X? He'd no longer be able to P&M about advertisers conspiring against him, and thus blame everyone else for his poor decisions regarding X.
 
Elon's winning.
So, I'd keep selling stock and going after the illegal sales conglomerate until they have to fold, or go to jail. Nobody wants to see their Ad zoos, either.

Secondly, nobody cares about Ad companies or their global agenda. These EU elitists trying hard to get companies on board with their Global policies and it's getting tiring. (They are expose themselves)


As for Twitter...
Twitter has grown up. Most of the kids and temporary gig-workers who don't have disposable incomes, can't afford twitter and all their SJW accounts got shut down... (hence) So today, there are more hard working PAYING customers of X, than before. As such, there are more thoughtful ideas and conversation and less fake people.

Again, before Elon there was just bot farms and slews of one-liner posts yapping up their friends, instead of actual debate or discussion. Jack Dorsey's Twitter wouldn't allow debate or conversations, all they did was create noise from kids who weren't even old enough to vote. And now all that gibberish and noise is gone and no longer tolerated.

X is prime real estate for Advertisers to people who have actual disposable incomes.

 
Losing 84% doesn't seem much like winning but at least he still has 16% left so that's something, right?

Revenue from Ads...
Are not the same^ as revenue from monthly subscriptions...


X itself is doing fine, but they are about to unleash streaming and other media, so those take additional cash.

 
Revenue from Ads...
Are not the same^ as revenue from monthly subscriptions...


X itself is doing fine, but they are about to unleash streaming and other media, so those take additional cash.

Latest numbers I could find put X's subscription revenue at 1/20th or less of the ad revenue for 2023 (itself a 30% drop from the year prior). X would need let's say a 10x increase in subs to counteract further ad revenue loss and with only 0.3% subbed there's opportunity for growth, but then paying into a formerly free service is not something that many people do willingly.
 
Less u forget, that when Elon took ovr, Twitter had not produced a profit for 6 years. It only took Elon 9 months to make the platform Profitable. (He fired 3,200 sjw)

In reality, If you don't have a verified X account, then you are not a working professional and just a kid with an non-professional opinion, otherwise you'd be verified and heard.

And that^ perhaps is what lemmings hate.
 
Less u forget, that when Elon took ovr, Twitter had not produced a profit for 6 years.

$1.21B profits in 2018, $1.47B in 2019.

It only took Elon 9 months to make the platform Profitable.

A year after Elon's acquisition he claimed X was "just about to become profitable." Got any more recent claims? And all claims are irrelevant as private companies aren't required to disclose losses or profits.

(He fired 3,200 sjw)

In reality, If you don't have a verified X account, then you are not a working professional and just a kid with an non-professional opinion, otherwise you'd be verified and heard.

And that^ perhaps is what lemmings hate.

Meaningless opinion on top of the incorrect numbers above.
 
Let's be clear. Musk does not own X to make money. He owns X so he can have a megaphone to the entire world and stroke his ego. Say what you want about him, but with one tweet he can ruin a persons life (pedo guy), rally markets (bitcoin), crash markets (threat to sell Tesla stock), and worst of all influence elections (recent interview with Trump). It is not more complicated than that. Your bickering about profitability or number of users is irrelevant. He just needs it to break even and is willing to sell what ever it takes to keep it afloat. Until someone creates a better "twitter", Elon wins.
 
Musk does not own X to make money. He owns X so he can have a megaphone to the entire world and stroke his ego.
This. Exactly this. It is the one and only reason he wasted all that money on it. Ego trip nothing more. The Orange Cockroach is trying the same thing, except he's neck deep in debt so had to start from scratch with Failed Social. Unfortunately there are hardly any "libs" the MAGA clowns can "own" on that platform and less than 1 million active monthly users. ^_^
 
He needs to try to go back to being a very quiet but incredibly successful entrepreneur.
The loud, petulant, opinionated fool with a messiah complex isn't working for him.
 
$1.21B profits in 2018, $1.47B in 2019.

A year after Elon's acquisition he claimed X was "just about to become profitable." Got any more recent claims? And all claims are irrelevant as private companies aren't required to disclose losses or profits.

Meaningless opinion on top of the incorrect numbers above.

It is really sad that you do not know this and have to look it up... and try to skew facts, using your FEELINGS.

We know Twitter was NOT profitable for many years, because Elon had the books opened up and it become NEWS....!

"For the fiscal year 2021, the last fiscal before Twitter was taken private, the company reported a loss of 221 million, with an annual revenue of $5.1 billion. Since its IPO, Twitter made profit in only two of the eight years."
-google



We also know that Twitter/X started becoming profitable this year... Per Elon and his new CEO's own statements.



ALL OF THAT^ and Elon's X platform is simply the best and getting better. The ONLY people who do not wish to be on Twitter/X are the children who can't legally subscribe, or the non-professionals who can no longer have multiple accounts, who's life hobby was upvote their Alts & friends...

Everyone wants free speech. And if you do not, you have to really ask yourself why.. and do a deep dive into why YOU can't you cope with truth.

Community notes FTW...
 
This. Exactly this. It is the one and only reason he wasted all that money on it. Ego trip nothing more. The Orange Cockroach is trying the same thing, except he's neck deep in debt so had to start from scratch with Failed Social. Unfortunately there are hardly any "libs" the MAGA clowns can "own" on that platform and less than 1 million active monthly users. ^_^

Your entire post is nothing but your feelings, based on someone else's feelings, not facts. It's exactly what I was just talking about.

You should fire the news sources in which you obtain your information. You clearly are either purposely spreading misinformation (foreign operative) or just grossly sheltered and listen to rumors and jumping on the hate wagon, because that is what lemming like to do.



It is absolutely hilarious to watch many of you kids squirm in front of free speech... it ruins your whole world, doesn't it. It also makes the rest of us question your motives... (and that is the real telling point, in all of this)
 
It is really sad that you do not know this and have to look it up... and try to skew facts, using your FEELINGS.

Your posts are wanting for verifiable facts and mine include them. All caps don't make anything you say any more true.

We know Twitter was NOT profitable for many years, because Elon had the books opened up and it become NEWS....!

"For the fiscal year 2021, the last fiscal before Twitter was taken private, the company reported a loss of 221 million, with an annual revenue of $5.1 billion. Since its IPO, Twitter made profit in only two of the eight years."
-google

Which is not what you posted. Again your attention to detail is missing, making anything you claim to be highly suspect.

We also know that Twitter/X started becoming profitable this year... Per Elon and his new CEO's own statements.

I see no statement of this.

ALL OF THAT^ and Elon's X platform is simply the best and getting better. The ONLY people who do not wish to be on Twitter/X are the children who can't legally subscribe, or the non-professionals who can no longer have multiple accounts, who's life hobby was upvote their Alts & friends...

Everyone wants free speech. And if you do not, you have to really ask yourself why.. and do a deep dive into why YOU can't you cope with truth.

Community notes FTW...

Thank you for your FEELINGS.
 
Losing 84% doesn't seem much like winning
On a percentage basis, Musk has lost far less on Twitter than Zuckerburg lost on the Washington Post, or AT&T lost on CNN. Yet we're not treated to an endless stream of media stories about those financial disasters, because they do the God's work of promoting the liberal agenda.

Let's be clear. Musk does not own X to make money.
Musk stated before he bought the first share of Twitter that he wasn't attempting to turn a profit, but rather to protect the forum from censorship. And because of his purchase, Twitter is no longer conspiring illegally with the US FBI to silence true, but politically damaging content. And, as this very site reported, Musk shut down X in Brazil, rather than comply with a judge's secret orders to censor true content.
 
Your posts are wanting for verifiable facts and mine include them. All caps don't make anything you say any more true

Which is not what you posted. Again your attention to detail is missing, making anything you claim to be highly suspect.

I see no statement of this. Thank you for your FEELINGS.


See..?
You are once again trying to cope with reality, by making this about another, or attacking the fact giver.. and just unable to cope or deal with reported facts.... you simply keep responding with your hurt feelings.

Everything I said is a FACT, is REPORTED in the NEWS and is the TRUTH.
(hence my quote)


EVERYONE KNOWS THIS... because we lived through that actual daily investment news reports. But somehow, you don't... and instead insist that your feelings are accurate, even when presented with reality (ie facts from google you are afraid to confront, now pretending that you are incapable of searching/learning/knowing/etc!)

So where does this leave Us..? All here knowing that you indeed (now) know this, but refuse to admit the truth to yourself... which illustrates your lack of factual news and the hate bubble you live behind.


Lastly,
There is no better platform for discussion that Twitter/X...
 
See..?
You are once again trying to cope with reality, by making this about another, or attacking the fact giver.. and just unable to cope or deal with reported facts.... you simply keep responding with your hurt feelings.

You said Twitter hadn't posted a profit in 6 years. That is factually wrong and I posted the numbers to show that and you eventually got there a few posts later, so congratulations.

I don't get your obsession about "hurt feelings" but that's a you thing. You could try not projecting yourself onto other people and stick to the topic.
 
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On a percentage basis, Musk has lost far less on Twitter than Zuckerburg lost on the Washington Post, or AT&T lost on CNN. Yet we're not treated to an endless stream of media stories about those financial disasters, because they do the God's work of promoting the liberal agenda.

They don't shoot their mouth off nearly as much as Musk. Do they at all? That's pretty boring.

Musk loves to do that and it attracts attention, and people love to see a successful/rich person fall, even if it's only a financial loss. Human nature. Those clicks and eyeballs sell very well to advertisers.
 
They don't shoot their mouth off nearly as much as Musk.
The point was that they ran WaPo and CNN into the ground far worse than Twitter, yet you don't see the media deluging us with stories of it. Nor did the media do so with stories about the financial losses at Tesla -- back when Musk was considered a good liberal, promoting liberal ideology. It wasn't until he strayed off the plantation that the propaganda campaign began.

And the last time Zuckerburg posted on social media, it was to show him waterskiing behind his mega-yacht --- a yacht that this climate-change advocate operates with a 112,000 gallon fuel tank and four engines burning some 1600 gallons of diesel per hour.

You said Twitter hadn't posted a profit in 6 years. That is factually wrong
Sure. Since being founded in 2006, Twitter lost money in 14 of the 16 following years. And at the point Musk acquired them, they had lost money for the last 2 years at an escalating pace. See below for their last quarterly statement prior to Musk's purchase. Remember, these are for just one quarter:

  • "...Costs and expenses totaled $1.52 billion, an increase of 31% year-over-year.
Operating loss was $344 million, representing a -29% operating margin, compared to operating income of $30 million or 3% operating margin in the same period last year...."
 
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You said Twitter hadn't posted a profit in 6 years. That is factually wrong and I posted the numbers to show that and you eventually got there a few posts later, so congratulations.

I don't get your obsession about "hurt feelings" but that's a you thing. You could try not projecting yourself onto other people and stick to the topic.

Once again, you are being laughed at for your backtracking and knitpicking...

-YOU ARE THE ONE who though Twitter lost 84% profit, without understanding it was Ad revenue and X uses a subscription based model.
-YOUR ARE THE ONE who didnt know Twitter was NOT profitable until Elon took ovr.
-YOU ARE THE ONE spreading misinformation and denying reality, because it hurts your feelings.


I AM THE ONE telling you that your feelings don't matter to others, only the truth and that your misinformation are lies based on feelings, not on FACTS. YOU are the one who has to deal with all your lies and clowning.
 
Wow, posting the same wrong things again and again.

Once again, you are being laughed at for your backtracking and knitpicking...

-YOU ARE THE ONE who though Twitter lost 84% profit, without understanding it was Ad revenue and X uses a subscription based model.

I quoted the Ad revenue from the story. Why are you inventing fiction? Seriously what is wrong with you?

-YOUR ARE THE ONE who didnt know Twitter was NOT profitable until Elon took ovr.

You claimed 6 straight years of not profitable before Elon. Incorrect, it was profitable for 2 of them. Again with your fiction.

-YOU ARE THE ONE spreading misinformation and denying reality, because it hurts your feelings.


I AM THE ONE telling you that your feelings don't matter to others, only the truth and that your misinformation are lies based on feelings, not on FACTS. YOU are the one who has to deal with all your lies and clowning.

Why do you project what seem to be your feelings on me? You have an obsession with feelings which is just weird.
 
The point was that they ran WaPo and CNN into the ground far worse than Twitter, yet you don't see the media deluging us with stories of it. Nor did the media do so with stories about the financial losses at Tesla -- back when Musk was considered a good liberal, promoting liberal ideology. It wasn't until he strayed off the plantation that the propaganda campaign began.

IMO it started with Elon calling that guy in the Philippines trying to rescue the people in the cave a pedo. Elon shoots his mouth off and is simply more interesting than a faceless company like AT&T or Mr. Bland Zuckerberg. Zuck has gotten a lot of hate but it's not personally because he doesn't shoot off his mouth much, rather for Facebook being a cesspool and tripling down on the money hole of the metaverse.

It's simpler than ideology because there are a lot of conservatives and liberals to hate out there and most people want to see them taken down a few pegs because that's what people like to see, the downfall. But specifically Elon attracts a lot of attention with what he says and posts so keeping him in the spotlight makes money for everyone else.
 
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