We've been using the MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED exclusively as a productivity monitor for the last six months, and it's time to check in to see how the panel is holding up in terms of burn-in.
The OLED Burn-In Test: Six Month Update
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alexnode
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I am on 2 x 32'' 4K LCD IPS Benq monitors, My refresh rate sucks but they are great for work. I find the colour accuracy and viewing angles very important. Problem is that they are pricey. There are some with 144hz refresh rate but they are not as colour calibrated as the slow ones.
I am not ready to spend money on testing an OLED screen and burning in is a no go for me.
I am not ready to spend money on testing an OLED screen and burning in is a no go for me.
wiyosaya
Posts: 9,997 +10,069
My use case(s) would not come anywhere near this level of use on static content.
AnilD
Posts: 110 +157
Same here. I won't buy a monitor only for gaming/movies. But if OLEDs can be abused like this for a year or more with no real burn-in (we'll have to see) that means that for normal desktop mixed usage it will last no less than 2-3 years which is when I can start considering buying an OLED monitor as my daily driver.
Squid Surprise
Posts: 5,812 +5,411
Well, love the update - even if it isn’t applicable to 99% of people… speaking of that - where’s the update on your 7980x machine you said you were gonna have?
Darkmatter
Posts: 46 +15
So the burn in is also just general static that changing the image won't help. Yikes!
BTW, why do the grey monitor shots look like badly compressed jpg's? Is it the 8bit colour limit? These big chunks can't be the burn in.
BTW, why do the grey monitor shots look like badly compressed jpg's? Is it the 8bit colour limit? These big chunks can't be the burn in.
I just reuploaded some of the footage photos in higher quality PNGs with less compression (the enlarged photos shown upon click), particularly the grey ones, but the results are still suboptimal due to capture issues and compression.
So yea, that "compressed" effect is not the monitors, it's the photos.
kiwigraeme
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I think the mitigation is pretty good now and should only get better. I would have no qualms buying.
Really for most people, unless what they know as classic burn in, not a huge problem. As not noticeable on everyday content or so slight -IPS light bleed you tend to forget about unless perfect image and ambient lighting to show it
Plus depends how you consider your monitor, a tool like a spoon to be immutable
Or a tool that following good practice gets some dings and degrades over time
I never babied my first Samsung Pro 840 SSD drive, 240Gbs - still works
My plasma followed good practice - trained my family, but they are getting sloppy - still no "effective" burn in - I'm sure something faint it against colour or grey scale etc
When you read forums - I've had two X brand TVs and they both burn in, in a couple of months . Others I have older models same brand X nothing for 5 years . seems weird - My take if they truly follow good practice , then burn it should show early or very late.
Like reviews for non-stick ( learn to book with steel and iron , or use sparingly low temp for actual purposes ) . Seem to fail quickly or after longtime . Like sneakers that come apart.
ie if you buy from a bad batch, heat mitigation not done right whatever, should be in warranty period
Really for most people, unless what they know as classic burn in, not a huge problem. As not noticeable on everyday content or so slight -IPS light bleed you tend to forget about unless perfect image and ambient lighting to show it
Plus depends how you consider your monitor, a tool like a spoon to be immutable
Or a tool that following good practice gets some dings and degrades over time
I never babied my first Samsung Pro 840 SSD drive, 240Gbs - still works
My plasma followed good practice - trained my family, but they are getting sloppy - still no "effective" burn in - I'm sure something faint it against colour or grey scale etc
When you read forums - I've had two X brand TVs and they both burn in, in a couple of months . Others I have older models same brand X nothing for 5 years . seems weird - My take if they truly follow good practice , then burn it should show early or very late.
Like reviews for non-stick ( learn to book with steel and iron , or use sparingly low temp for actual purposes ) . Seem to fail quickly or after longtime . Like sneakers that come apart.
ie if you buy from a bad batch, heat mitigation not done right whatever, should be in warranty period
I'm 2.5 years in with my AW3423DW and have zero burn-in after 4220 hours of mixed use.
However, I do auto-hide the taskbar, have a dark screensaver set to kick in after 5 minutes, and use full screen a lot (via a mouse button shortcut) to hide the tab and address bars. I also use the "filter invert" option in Vivaldi to force a black background on white pages. I've done that with every panel regardless - my eyes prefer it.
The upgrade in image quality is huge (especially in gaming and media) and well worth a few small, one-time tweaks for the return you get. Hell, I even have 6 months left on my warranty! Expensive? YES. Best single upgrade I ever made? YES.
However, I do auto-hide the taskbar, have a dark screensaver set to kick in after 5 minutes, and use full screen a lot (via a mouse button shortcut) to hide the tab and address bars. I also use the "filter invert" option in Vivaldi to force a black background on white pages. I've done that with every panel regardless - my eyes prefer it.
The upgrade in image quality is huge (especially in gaming and media) and well worth a few small, one-time tweaks for the return you get. Hell, I even have 6 months left on my warranty! Expensive? YES. Best single upgrade I ever made? YES.
I've been using a 2021 LG OLED TV with my PC since and haven't noticed or experienced burn in issues yet. But it's been the single biggest upgrade for my gaming setup ever. It's as big as a top tier GPU upgrade. I will never go back to any other monitor tech. OLED is so good I dumped my iPhone for an android with an OLED screen.
Less than 300 nits?
Jeez what century are you playing in.
So you've got no hdr and testing burn in.
What a waste of time.
Try proper hdr at 1000 nits and then see how much burn in you get.
If you're going to test for burn in then at least do it properly.
Try using some decent technology too.
250 nits.
Laughable and substandard
Jeez what century are you playing in.
So you've got no hdr and testing burn in.
What a waste of time.
Try proper hdr at 1000 nits and then see how much burn in you get.
If you're going to test for burn in then at least do it properly.
Try using some decent technology too.
250 nits.
Laughable and substandard
Wow. Very disappointing. After just 6 months of normal work, this kind of burn-in appears. Bad. Plus taskbar recognition that doesn't work properly. I would have expected such a result only after 2 to 3 years.
I like to use my monitors for 4 to 5 years and it's unlikely to last that long. Still not suitable for productive work.
I like to use my monitors for 4 to 5 years and it's unlikely to last that long. Still not suitable for productive work.
Imagine how bad the burn in would be on a bright screen.
Don't ask my why they have used such a dark screen for the test.
Maybe they were afraid of the obvious results
I like to keep my panels for the same length of time as you do.
That's impossible with oled
I falsely assumed new improvements and protections.
My 65 inch LG Oled TV has now been running for 3 years without any visible burn-in. I love it. But it's just a different use... and a dark environment.
gamerk2
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Some points from someone who's owned two consecutive OLEDs (LG B6P->LG C2):
This is the one that got my B6P (admittedly a very early OLED model), and to this day I will always recommend setting the taskbar to auto-minimize for exactly this reason.
As for my second point: If you are in a dark room environment, you really don't need the monitors brightness blasting at 100%; I'm personally running with the OLED brightness down to 30/100. This goes a very long way to promoting longevity.
As for my current LG C2, which I would estimate is at about 1500 hours of use, very little evidence of burn-in/wear. There's some non-uniform wear of the pixels, but nothing even remotely visible without actively looking for it.
This is the one that got my B6P (admittedly a very early OLED model), and to this day I will always recommend setting the taskbar to auto-minimize for exactly this reason.
As for my second point: If you are in a dark room environment, you really don't need the monitors brightness blasting at 100%; I'm personally running with the OLED brightness down to 30/100. This goes a very long way to promoting longevity.
As for my current LG C2, which I would estimate is at about 1500 hours of use, very little evidence of burn-in/wear. There's some non-uniform wear of the pixels, but nothing even remotely visible without actively looking for it.
gamerk2
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Do remember that even OLEDs do have a baseline level of non-uniformity; I'd love to see a baseline picture for comparison.
yRaz
Posts: 6,729 +10,200
Was shoping for a new TV and home theater guy at the store was telling explaining the difference between some OLEDs and the issue of burn in came up. Said that samsung OLEDs use LG panels but the Samsungs have a higher rate of burn in because they drive them harder to appear better on the floor.
However, he also told me to ignore brightness levels because under ideal viewing conditions that the absurd levels new displays are pushing make it difficult for your eyes to adjust going from bright scenes to dark scenes.
However, he also told me to ignore brightness levels because under ideal viewing conditions that the absurd levels new displays are pushing make it difficult for your eyes to adjust going from bright scenes to dark scenes.
gamerk2
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^^ This.
I run my OLED light on my LG C2 at 30/100. It's still plenty bright. Frankly, the default max brightness is outright blinding.
A bit unrelated, but my OLED laptop is so dark that I cannot use it unless the brightness is 80%+. As for TVs and monitors, I too am satisfied with lower brightness, primarily because of the dark environment in living room and my eyes' health when I use a monitor.
I have been using my Oled TV as a pc monitor for 4 years with zero burn in. Taskbar hidden and dark mode (plus the in built burn in reduction features such as pixel shift) have clearly made the world of difference.
I use my screen more than 8 hours a day for work and play, currently at more than 20,000 hours. My next screen will happily be an Oled. Just have to use it properly.
I use my screen more than 8 hours a day for work and play, currently at more than 20,000 hours. My next screen will happily be an Oled. Just have to use it properly.
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