Valve banned The Verge from its secret Deadlock playtest for leaking information on the game

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A hot potato: It seems that Valve is in a minor scuffle with The Verge. The dispute has not come to legal swings, but the Half-Life publisher has banned the tech publication from a "secret" closed beta test of a new MOBA that nobody is supposed to know about, but everybody does.

Let's set the stage. For months, data miners have been dribbling information on a secret Valve project that has gone under at least three codenames – Neon Prime, Citedel, and now Deadlock. People have described it as a MOBA that combines elements from other similar titles like Dota 2, Team Fortress 2, and Overwatch. Gameplay footage is already floating around, so although it remains unannounced, it is no longer a secret.

Over the weekend, Valve massively expanded its closed beta testing. By some accounts, the playtest reached 12,000 to 16,000 concurrent players. One of Valve's beta invites went to The Verge founding member and Senior Editor Sean Hollister, who subsequently penned an exposé of the game on Monday.

Hollister makes it clear that he did not sign an NDA or any other written or verbal agreement. The invite didn't even come with an existing embargo notice. He also points out that he is convinced Deadlock is a "legitimate" Valve production.

"Earlier today, I received a no-strings-attached invite to play Deadlock on Steam. Steam claims the game is made by Valve. It displays Valve's copyrighted logo when it launches, and its executable is digitally signed by 'Valve Corp.' The game's directories contain Valve legal notices and numerous other text files that reference Valve, and it feels like a Valve game. Though Valve didn't respond to my requests for comment, I'm completely convinced that it's legit."

Hollister goes on to describe some of the aspects of the gameplay. His piece also includes screenshots and a short looping gif of a zipline mechanic found in the game.

Shortly after publishing his story, Valve fans became outraged at the audacity of The Verge for publishing a story on Deadlock because it was supposed to be a secret. Many falsely accused Hollister of breaking an NDA. Others pointed out an implied NDA agreement displayed in the game. However, the disclaimer is more of a request than a binding agreement.

"Early Development Build: Deadlock is still early in development, with a lot of temporary art and experimental gameplay," the disclaimer reads. "Do not share anything about the game with anyone."

If Valve was concerned about leaks, why does it suggest "Invite your friends" to the playtest on the title screen (below)? Having 12,000 to 16,000 players in a beta test and inviting them to ask their buddies to join is not the best way to keep development under wraps.

Fellow Senior Editor Tom Warren came to Hollister's defense on Twitter, reiterating that the invite came with no legal strings. He also confirmed that the so-called (by fans, not Valve) "informal NDA" popup (below) disappears when hitting escape instead of "Okay" and allows the user to play without agreeing to the notice.

Despite his and his coworker's claims, Valve banned Hollister's account from the closed beta without explanation.

"Turns out, Valve was not fine with me trying Deadlock with friends," Hollister added in an update to the article. "I've been banned from matchmaking! Oh well. Please feel free to make fun of me in the comments!"

Forbes notes that this is part of being a publisher. A reporter or publication is under no obligation to sit on a story that nobody else is publishing unless it has entered a legal agreement not to.

"These are decisions you make when reporting, and sometimes when something comes down to 'some people may think I'm a jerk for doing this' you are still going to publish information no one else is running, particularly when you have not agreed to any sort of legally-binding NDA or even an embargo. I'm not sure what I would have done in this situation, but yes, technically The Verge had the right to do this no matter how mad people may be about it, Valve included."

It is unclear whether The Verge will face any sanctions other than its ban from the playtest. Valve has refused to answer requests for comment, and The Verge has dug in its heels. Legal actions are possible but doubtful. Valve hasn't even issued a cease and desist order to get the story taken down. A more likely scenario would be Valve excluding The Verge from future sneak peeks, but as Forbes points out, that's not such a big deal considering the infrequency of Valve-produced games.

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Ah yes. Valve. The last company that respects its user base and trusts them to do the right thing.

Just because something isn't illegal, it doesn't mean you should do it. And maybe you should also not parade your stupidity around and blame it on valve for not making a binding agreement.

Yuck.

That said, this was probably a test from valve and Hollister failed with flying colors.
 
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This is just stupid lol. They let sooo many people in and expect it to be a secret? We have known about this for some weeks now... its 0 % a secret and its 0% exciting. Its a boring moba/dota/overwatch clone kind of game. Meh. 5000000000000% pass. I'm a huge 100% fan of valve too, so this should probably mean something. Its their first game that I wont even read about, see any footage or ever play. Generic this is.
 
I think what happened here is that valve figured The Verge would do this and act this way so they're basically telling every other publisher out there "the verge can't be trusted, don't invite them to beta tests"

And valve will sit back and enjoy the free publicity of The Verge acting like a child while simultaneously getting themselves blacklisted from future games by nearly every other developer.
 
"People have described it as a MOBA that combines elements from other Valve titles like Dota 2, Team Fortress 2, and Overwatch."

Overwatch is not a Valve title (I know what you meant, but the phrasing implies wrongness).
 
"People have described it as a MOBA that combines elements from other Valve titles like Dota 2, Team Fortress 2, and Overwatch."

Overwatch is not a Valve title (I know what you meant, but the phrasing implies wrongness).
Fair call. Thanks.
 
Well, it has been a thing for like ever. People do not read anything posted & if they do, they just ignore it and proceed and do what they want to do anyway. From that menu pop up it is pretty clear Valve would prefer if you played the beta that they would like it if you did not go and post things all over the internet about it. They were fine with you inviting friends and come and try it out but posting on a computer game and news site is probably not alright with Valve and they acted accordingly.

If The Verge was not sure if it was ok or not all they had to do is, ask Valve if they were alright with them posting information and game play on their site for everyone to read. I am 100% sure Valve would have said OH Hell no that is not ok. This is why The Verge never bothered asking for permission they already knew it was not ok to do this but proceeded to do it anyway so they could be the first site to give out news about the game and may gain some subs from it.
 
Valve has steadily declined over the years. I have stopped buying from them because they refuse to help a veteran reclaim previous games I no longer have the original S/N for. I'm in the process of alerting ALL vet organizations to boycott Valve and their associates. It won't break them but if their marketing department is paying attention and reading their mail they will soon see the penalty for ignoring those that serve this country.
 
Valve has steadily declined over the years. I have stopped buying from them because they refuse to help a veteran reclaim previous games I no longer have the original S/N for. I'm in the process of alerting ALL vet organizations to boycott Valve and their associates. It won't break them but if their marketing department is paying attention and reading their mail they will soon see the penalty for ignoring those that serve this country.

So what you're saying is, you want games from valve without proof you actually own them and expect them to comply with this just because your a vet? And that by not just giving you games they're in the wrong?

Sounds to me like you're blackmailing valve into giving you free games instead of them doing something wrong.
 
"Hollister makes it clear that he did not sign an NDA or any other written or verbal agreement. "
LOL. They really want us believe that the game had no licence agreement that you had to accept prior to installing it? Classic Verge. Lying through their teeth.
 
"Hollister makes it clear that he did not sign an NDA or any other written or verbal agreement. "
LOL. They really want us believe that the game had no licence agreement that you had to accept prior to installing it? Classic Verge. Lying through their teeth.
And every other pore or orifice, most likely.
 
"Hollister makes it clear that he did not sign an NDA or any other written or verbal agreement. "
LOL. They really want us believe that the game had no licence agreement that you had to accept prior to installing it? Classic Verge. Lying through their teeth.

No matter what licence agreement says, it's invalid unless law supports it. And no, licence agreement is not NDA, no matter what it says.
In this case, Verge has not done anything illegal so I really don't understand what your problem is.
 
No matter what licence agreement says, it's invalid unless law supports it. And no, licence agreement is not NDA, no matter what it says.
In this case, Verge has not done anything illegal so I really don't understand what your problem is.
The Verge knew it was "Valves SECRET new shooter" they were spilling the beans on. Ergo they knew what they were doing was not right (may not be illegal but laws do not define morality). The Verge are hardly a trustworthy publication (though the infamous PC build guide still makes me chuckle) so not exactly unexpected behaviour from them.
 
"Hollister makes it clear that he did not sign an NDA or any other written or verbal agreement. "
LOL. They really want us believe that the game had no licence agreement that you had to accept prior to installing it? Classic Verge. Lying through their teeth.

There literally isn't. There's a prompt as you start the game asking to not share anything about it but that's not a NDA nor legally enforcible.
 
No matter what licence agreement says, it's invalid unless law supports it.
Wrong. You have it all backwards. It's only invalid then, if the law explicitly says so - because it contains an element that's forbidden by law.

And no, licence agreement is not NDA, no matter what it says.
Wrong again. A licence agreement can contain provisions just like an NDA, which are then binding.

so I really don't understand what your problem is.
I see you don't. The problem is though that your knowledge about laws is based on popular internet hearsay, not facts.
 
There literally isn't.
If there's no licence agreement to the game, then there's nothing that would allow installing and playing it. If that's the case, then running the game is, by definition, illegal, as according to copyright law without explicit permission from the author/rights owner you have no legal grounds to own or use any software.

So, this is a self-defeating argument. Not that I'd believe there being no need to accept any kind of agreement on a closed beta software. Just saying, that even if that would be the case, that still wouldn't make everything legal, as you kid yourself, but everything illegal, by default and by definition.
 
Valve wanted an organic marketing experience, with friends telling friends. Not with people having their first encounter with information on the game coloured by a "reliable" review on it.
 
The Verge knew it was "Valves SECRET new shooter" they were spilling the beans on. Ergo they knew what they were doing was not right (may not be illegal but laws do not define morality). The Verge are hardly a trustworthy publication (though the infamous PC build guide still makes me chuckle) so not exactly unexpected behaviour from them.

If you are playing game with like 20k players, it's pretty much public what happens in game. Valve cannot honestly expect everyone to stay shut. Or then just should accept that someone leaks something.

Wrong. You have it all backwards. It's only invalid then, if the law explicitly says so - because it contains an element that's forbidden by law.

No. There are gazillion things law doesn't say anything. If you put that on EULA, it really doesn't matter. Like you can say on EULA that you cannot sit while playing game. Tell me law that agrees with that? Right.

Wrong again. A licence agreement can contain provisions just like an NDA, which are then binding.

Good luck proving who actually accepted those
terms.

I see you don't. The problem is though that your knowledge about laws is based on popular internet hearsay, not facts.

I'm always glad to accept facts. You may start from this: NDA is usually signed by person himself. Person that accepted EULA might be different person that plays game, right?
 
Again, it apparently flew waaaay, waaaay over your head, but nothing will change the fact that any argument that somehow postulates that there was no agreement signed by the user (The Verge) in order to access/use the software or that the agreement is invalid, can not be proven that it was accepted, etc., is a self-defeating argument. Because if we accept this postulate to be true, then we also have to conclude that the user (The Verge) had no right access/download/run the software at all, and was acting illegally, because of copyright law.

Now, if you still don't understand that argument, then go back and keep re-reading it until you do. Because until you can debunk this argument (and you can't, because it's impossible, by definition), it stands that The Verge is either lying when they say they didn't have to accept any agreement to run the software, or they're admitting to have downloaded and run the game without a valid licence/permission, in which case they were breaking the law just because they had no agreement, and hence no licence/permission to run and download the game.

Simple as that.
 
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