AMD Zen 5 CPU boosting update backported to Windows 11 23H2, arriving sooner than expected

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In brief: AMD's Zen 5 series chips arrived earlier this month to some salty reviews over the performance discrepancies that didn't reflect the promised uplifts. Not long after, the chipmaker announced that the problem would be addressed in Windows 11's 24H2 update. But now in an unexpected twist, the fix is landing sooner than expected.

AMD has managed to backport the same Ryzen CPU optimizations to the Windows 11 23H2 build via a new optional update in record time. This comes just a week after the company stated it was "collaborating with Microsoft" to rush out those fixes via an optional patch. Clearly, that effort paid off – users no longer have to wait for the forthcoming Windows 11 update and can enjoy boosted framerates on the current build.

The update that unlocks better CPU performance is dubbed KB5041587, which you can grab through Windows Update by going to Advanced Options > Optional Updates. Once installed, AMD says it expects "the performance uplift to be very similar between 24H2 and 23H2" for Zen 3, Zen 4, and Zen 5 processors.

The fix centers around some branch-prediction optimizations that could only be used with Windows 11's "admin mode" turned on. Our own Steven Walton previously highlighted that the Ryzen 7 9700X churned out 7% more frames in games like Cyberpunk 2077 on admin mode, although this number swung around rapidly depending on the title being tested. At the time, the cause of the discrepancies wasn't known.

AMD later cleared things up with an announcement, singling out poor OS optimization for the branch predictor as the main problem. The company also cited some other possible reasons for the discrepancies between the promised uplifts and what reviewers were seeing, which could be summarized as using different automated test parameters.

A handful of reviewers have already glimpsed the potential performance uplifts in preview 24H2 builds, with gains in certain titles sometimes reaching double digits, though slight regression was observed in others. This optional update gives the masses a chance to experience the improvements themselves.

We know for a fact these optimizations deliver as promised, which means we'll see a boost for AMD's new Ryzen 9000 processors in gaming tasks, but perhaps even better, those same optimizations boost previous Zen 4 releases as well.

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I can't find anything on how the X3D chips are improving with this update. I'm really interested to see how much this helps the 5800X3D and 7800X3D chips. I would imagine that the improvement should scale the same as other 5000 and 7000 series chips (perhaps even a bit more), but what if it doesn't? What if the gains were primarily seen by non X3D parts, that would actually be quite devastating for AMD considering how popular X3D is. Again, I think that's extremely unlikely.
 
Just proves how much a mess is Windows.

I remember when Intel and MS teamed for Alder Lake optimization before the launch. Now, you see what kind of grip Intel has for being able to pull this up.

I can't wait for the day I can drop Windows for good.
 
Just proves how much a mess is Windows.

I remember when Intel and MS teamed for Alder Lake optimization before the launch. Now, you see what kind of grip Intel has for being able to pull this up.

I can't wait for the day I can drop Windows for good.

The better question is, how much of Windows is optimized for Intel in a way that causes issues for AMD cpus?
 
If you have "Get the latest updates as soon as they're available" turned on, it seems to just auto-install this straight away. Does require a reboot though.
 
I just updated, we'll see how it goes. I can't help but think that some of the stability issues we see are because AMD doesn't test with actual user environments. They didn't see this issue because they were running all their benchmarks as an Administrator, but customers don't do that. Maybe this update will get us closer to the environments that AMD is actually testing with and we'll see more stability as a result?
 
So, there is no issue with Ryzen, just windows crap again, but still that was not mentioned.
Also, add here the new bios with higher tdp, for example msi, where additional 2 digit % are added in multi thread.
To be honest, I feel bias here towards puting amd in a bad spot. Disapointed. We need to read other sites to get the real picture.
 
So, there is no issue with Ryzen, just windows crap again, but still that was not mentioned.
Also, add here the new bios with higher tdp, for example msi, where additional 2 digit % are added in multi thread.
To be honest, I feel bias here towards puting amd in a bad spot. Disapointed. We need to read other sites to get the real picture.
Wait, I thought Techspot as a shill for AMD, isn't that what others have complained about in the past? haha. In all seriousness, couldn't these things just be considered an error on the part of the author and editor? Why does it have to portray some kind of bias?
 
So, there is no issue with Ryzen, just windows crap again, but still that was not mentioned.
Also, add here the new bios with higher tdp, for example msi, where additional 2 digit % are added in multi thread.
To be honest, I feel bias here towards puting amd in a bad spot. Disapointed. We need to read other sites to get the real picture.
Yes they are totally bias against AMD in showing Zen 5 has similar performance to Zen 4.

Wait Zen 4 is also AMD... -gasp-
 
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